tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post2400906584306725152..comments2023-12-16T04:08:06.419-08:00Comments on Real Estate in the LBC: LA TIMES: Study offers 5 options to reshape Long Beach’s breakwaterel beehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14187665973956068496noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-12892327225917971322009-08-06T11:02:57.083-07:002009-08-06T11:02:57.083-07:00LOL!LOL!el beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14187665973956068496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-20192911629544775072009-08-06T10:56:37.085-07:002009-08-06T10:56:37.085-07:00I'm for it... any revenues generated by the po...I'm for it... any revenues generated by the positive impact can help Laura Richardson stave off foreclosures...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-28392627950608981842009-07-31T08:54:26.838-07:002009-07-31T08:54:26.838-07:00I agree. This comes up every few years and then go...I agree. This comes up every few years and then goes nowhere. I'll believe it when I see it.<br /><br />HOWEVER, I wonder if the doodie-rific economic situation might provide the impetus to finally get it done. It sure beats selling city buildings.el beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14187665973956068496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-38996799403810027112009-07-30T22:34:27.459-07:002009-07-30T22:34:27.459-07:00"I'm relatively new to LB and I had a con..."I'm relatively new to LB and I had a conversation with a long time resident who said this comes up every couple of years and never goes anywhere. What do you guys say, is it different this time or will my hopes just be dashed."<br /><br />I agree with the long time resident with respect to removing the breakwater (it has been a pipe dream for decades for some), but the trash has really gotten out of hand over the last 10-15 years, and I wouldn't be surprised if something is done to alleviate that.Oldtimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06149644650543356416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-70843964954576252922009-07-30T12:18:35.025-07:002009-07-30T12:18:35.025-07:00Mayor Bob send a summary and the presentation in t...Mayor Bob send a summary and the presentation in the email his office sends out. Pretty nice read.<br /><br />Two things I found interesting:<br /><br />1) If I understood correctly these findings were result of a fact finding study in which only previously conducted research was included. That is, there was no new research done at this stage. If this to move forward then new research would be conducted which could come to different conclusions.<br /><br />2) For all options considered the wave height changes would be from 0 to 4 times larger than we currently have. How big are the waves now? 4 times bigger don't seem big enough to be a good surf sport.<br /><br />I'm relatively new to LB and I had a conversation with a long time resident who said this comes up every couple of years and never goes anywhere. What do you guys say, is it different this time or will my hopes just be dashed. <br /><br />I live in walking distance to the beach and I drive to OC to surf and hang out at the beach. I would love to have a "real" beach to go to. <br /><br />-eEddie of Long Beachhttp://www.fiorally.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-35108089929882316752009-07-30T10:44:53.133-07:002009-07-30T10:44:53.133-07:00Oh and Carl, if you look close through a telescope...Oh and Carl, if you look close through a telescope at night, you can see tiny people working on those islands.<br /><br />Could they be Oompa Loompas???<br /><br />Time may some day tell...Mike in LBCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-32494873126310308362009-07-30T10:42:12.585-07:002009-07-30T10:42:12.585-07:00This is seriously the answer to all of Long Beach&...This is seriously the answer to all of Long Beach's problems.... from the lack of customers for the retail business in downtown, to the lack of money and status of the majority of residents.<br /><br />Anybody with a brain would wonder why much of Long Beach is such a beautiful city, yet so ghetto and so much of a terd.<br /><br />Put the surf into the beach, and you'd instantly raise everything (inculding home values).<br /><br />I see awesome restaraunts, a shoreline area catering to great crowds, businesses prospering, property values going sky high (picture Venice Beach), and the entire class of the population changing, from something similar to Compton, into something similar to Manhattan Beach.<br /><br />For those of us here now, we could buy our condo or house, and literally wait for the tide to come in.<br /><br />How sweet it would be.....Mike in LBCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-39515558009857276902009-07-30T10:15:24.110-07:002009-07-30T10:15:24.110-07:00The waves don't have to be good enough just fo...The waves don't have to be good enough just for surfing. Water that is less stagnant than it is now would add to LB being more of a "surf" city.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-38469606410183710772009-07-30T04:33:18.049-07:002009-07-30T04:33:18.049-07:00Take a look at an overhead of LB, and consider the...Take a look at an overhead of LB, and consider the wave shadows caused by Catalina, the oil islands, the port infrastructure, and then consider the direction of prevailing winds. I think the prospects for decent surfing waves in the LBC are remote. You'd get larger waves than we see today, but nothing rivaling Seal and Huntington next door.Oldtimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06149644650543356416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-76526282626701624582009-07-29T20:36:33.098-07:002009-07-29T20:36:33.098-07:00Just as long as it doesn't affect the fine kit...Just as long as it doesn't affect the fine kitesurfing many of us currently enjoy at Belmont. Most of the time it has the most consistent winds in SoCal. A few more waves would be welcome, but may make it tougher to keep it open for us kitesurfers.Qualified to Represent...http://nowhere.bol.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-83604535097696452712009-07-29T19:01:49.249-07:002009-07-29T19:01:49.249-07:00The results of the study can be found on the city ...The results of the study can be found on the city of Long Beach web page (which for some reason I am unable to paste here).<br /><br /> To summarize, though: most of surf that might result from any changes would be from Bluff Park north to Downtown.Redondo@Broadwaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-2156563633706834192009-07-29T18:12:35.882-07:002009-07-29T18:12:35.882-07:00Damn. Totally forgot about Newport and Laguna. (Co...Damn. Totally forgot about Newport and Laguna. (Counter Point taken!) <br /><br />As far as Huntington, the only really exposed area are Surfside/Sunset as the rest of the PCH residences are set back from the beach and on the other side of PCH. But those residents knew the risk going in! The ones in long beach probably assumed that the breakwater would be there forever. Baggin' sand looks tough!!<br /><br />Call me cynical, but I also think that those residents could have some sway with the city council. <br /><br />so you're on the Newport/Inglewood fault too? :) Maybe that will take care of the breakwater!!!<br /><br />Personally, I hate the breakwater. I also wish they'd sink those damn oil islands. <br /><br />I agree that Long Beach could be more of destination city, and I would like to see it.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07595452272222717964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-7449291254385163762009-07-29T17:39:55.470-07:002009-07-29T17:39:55.470-07:00Carl,
"Well, there is more to being a 's...Carl,<br /><br />"Well, there is more to being a 'surf town' than just having surf."<br /><br />Very true. Point well taken. <br /><br />I would think the "surf city" focus would be from the pier all the way up to where Alamitos Beach meets the Shoreline area. Who knows? <br /><br />As far as the breakers protecting coastal homes, HB, NB, Laguna Beach residents don't seem terribly worried about their lack of protection. Plus if there are astronomical, 100-year-storm high tides, I seriously doubt a pile of rocks is going to do much.<br /><br />Kind of like living on a fault line (I had a REALLY bad dream about an earthquake last night!)--there's only so much you can do to protect yourself. <br /><br />However, I still get how that would be a big concern--and from what I gather it's one of the primary issues.<br /><br />I love Long Beach so much, but in my heart I know it's nowhere near its potential as a destination city. Nice beaches attracting tourism dollars sure could help.el beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14187665973956068496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5140004705538204727.post-89988170544315107492009-07-29T17:21:23.832-07:002009-07-29T17:21:23.832-07:00Well, there is more to being a "surf town&quo...Well, there is more to being a "surf town" than just having surf. I remember when Main St. in Huntington Beach was a spot you DIDN'T want to be. Now, I still don't want to be there, but it is for an entirely different reason. :) <br /><br />Going from memory (since I am an outsider), and it may not be good, but where is the focus of the "surf city" going to be? I would imagine it would have to be around the Belmont Pier, right? I honestly have no idea. <br /><br />I am looking at the shoreline from Shoreline Village down the 75th Place and it looks ALL residential, except for the area around the pool. <br /><br />Am I wrong? <br /><br />(and they would have to ensure that a winter storm combined with astronomical high tides wouldn't wipe out the homes south of 55th place)<br /><br />I would be all for a "surf city" though.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07595452272222717964noreply@blogger.com